Tue 27 Feb 2007
Berkeley Toyota Caught Lying – Refuses To Sell Couple A Car
Posted by Jonahstein under Berkeley Toyota , Berkeley Toyota Sucks[39] Comments
Buying a new car is rarely a pleasant experience.
- Car salesmen lie to you on the phone to get you to walk in the door.
- Car dealers advertise a special in the newspaper and then tell you the vehicle is already sold.
- They tell you that the discount they advertised isn’t available in the model you want because “that car is hard to get.”
- They claim to have your car in stock and then try to sell you whatever they’ve got.
Most of us would rather get a root canal than walk into a showroom.
So, what does a dealer do when you catch the salesman red-handed in a bald-faced lie?
Apologize? Show Contrition? Pretend to care?
Berkeley Toyota simply refused to sell my wife a car.
What does this have to do with measurement? Call it the Stein Uncertainty Principle: what you choose to measure changes behavior with unintended consequences.
Toyota has a great reputation for customer satisfaction. They methodically follow up with every customer and have built much of their compensation for salesmen from the customer survey results. Salesmen know that one unhappy customer could affect their rating and cost them thousands of dollars. Does this system make salesmen treat customers better?
NO. Instead, this dealer won’t sell you a car if they think you might be unhappy with them. Catch them lying to you and they won’t sell you the car. Why risk letting anyone with a bad experience actually tell Toyota Corporate about it?
This saga begins when my wife decided that her 1992 Camry was ready for a replacement. The car had served her well for 15 years and over 100,000 miles, but time had taken its toll on the interior and exterior.
We began by visiting Broadway Toyota in Oakland, where I had leased a Prius the month before. We chose the model and color she wanted, but they did not have the car in stock. The Oakland dealer did search and told us that the touring package was only available in a Package 5, which contained the navigation system and was about $3k more. They offered to sell us a package 5 Prius for $1750 off of the sticker price, but said that they couldn’t find any in gray. We asked them to locate the car we wanted and give us a call.
After not hearing from them for three day, my wife decided to call Berkeley Toyota, where she bought the Camry in 1993. She spoke to a salesman named Javier and asked him if they had a gray Prius in stock. He said they had two available and made an appointment for us to come in.
My wife and I arrive 15 minutes later to discover that Javier hasn’t returned from picking up the car. When he finally arrives after 20 minutes, I explain that we were in a hurry; I took off work to come make sure my wife gets the deal we were promised and she needed to leave for class in two hours.
Javier stepped away for a few minutes to talk with another salesman and returned to tell us that it turns out that they sold one of the gray ones on Saturday and that the other one they have isn’t available because it just arrived and hasn’t been checked into inventory. He said that the car can’t be ready for delivery for another three days. When I questioned why it would take so long, he responded that the service department was very busy (this PDI process, according to the customer service manager at Berkeley Toyota, takes about 1.5 hours and can usually be done the same day).
Javier sat us down and asked my wife to fill out a credit application along with an offer sheet. He took the sheet and went into his manager’s office. Javier returned about five minutes later and told us Mr. Rios said his manager noticed that we “were upset or in a bad mood,” and wanted to be sure we would be happy. He then admitted that the gray car been damaged and needed repairs before they could sell it to us. After hearing we were not interested in buying a brand new car that had already been in the body shop, he tried to sell us on a different car.
Of course, we were not happy about coming in to the store to discover the car we wanted wasn’t available. We told Javier exactly what we wanted on the phone, we had already researched the car and we came in to close the deal. We didn’t come, not re-negotiate the deal or be offered a different color. They didn’t have the car they promised us available, so we left.
My wife phoned Mr. Rios a few hours later to ask what the manager might have meant by that comment about us being in a bad mood. She explained that at this point she was interested in ANY Prius with a Package #2 and a dark interior, and she was willing to come back in to discuss another color. Javier said that he would look into what was available and call her back.
Imagine her shock when Javier phoned back a few minutes later (presumably after discussing it with his manager) to say that he “feels uncomfortable selling us a car” since we were so angry and that her husband made him “feel like dirt” on the phone.
We were outraged. They lied to us about having two cars available. They lied about needing three days to prepare the car for delivery so they could fix the body damage. After all that, when my wife was ready to settle for another color to be finished with the agony of dealing with car salesmen, they said we weren’t happy enough to buy a car from them!
Toyota has gotten a lot of press about their customer satisfaction program, including a recent New York Times article, Toyota’s rise to world domination driven by customer satisfaction, we decided to write Toyota Headquarters.
We did hear back from Toyota, who said they would file a report with Toyota of Berkeley and that we would get a call back from them within 3 days. They did not offer any hope for resolution or provide anything we could feel positive about.
The next morning, we got a follow up call from Toyota of Berkeley. The customer satisfaction manager explained that he had heard about the situation and that the dealer was simply exercising their right to choose who to do business with. He agreed that Javier was trying to avoid us knowing about the car needing paint when he said it would take 3 days to PDI. He further stated that Toyota would require them to tell us about the body damage if the repair exceeded $500. He didn’t state that the damage was beyond the $500 threshold, but we speculate that the dealer told us about the body damage after they new thye would have to disclose it when they sold us the car.
He also said that this situation occurred because the salesman was afraid that if he sold us a car, we would respond unfavorably in our customer satisfaction survey. He said that one bad experience reported by a customer could lower the customer satisfaction index, costing the salesman thousands of dollar over the course of a year. .
Javier dug himself a hole and then claimed that we were in a bad mood and using profane language because he was scared we might trash him in a customer survey. How is that for Irony? Because of Toyota’s customer satisfaction measurement system, Berkeley Toyota lied to us, got caught lying and then their management refused to sell us a car.
Unfortunately, that won’t ever show up in a customer survey.




March 5th, 2007 at 1:40 pm
Hey, why don’t you publish this on Consumerist.com?
March 7th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
Tamar
Thanks for the Tip! I sent an email to consumerist and wound up with about 400 visitors.
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:44 am
Please get a life, if you could get the deal you wanted at any Toyota dealer why don’t you! I would agree with the Toyota dealer in Berkeley and their process in dealing with you. People (Consumers) have forgotten (Class) when dealing with Dealers. If you want a particular auto dealer to give a more than a competitive price at least be pleasant. I don’t believe the dealer is the only one to blame. Look with in your own collar and would you sell a good to an upleasant prospect?
June 6th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
Bypass the dealer, buy from the net.
The dealer will always want to suck your time. If you know what you want, buying from the net puts you in a position of power: you answer the phone or call back when YOU want.
Then go to the dealer, sign the papers, check the car and go, 20 minutes or less there! I know, I did it and that was a great feeling.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
Don’t let 1 person ruin your hard work to decide on this car. Buy it from another dealer, then fill in the survey based upon the whole experience from the first dealer. I know that doesn’t sound fair to the second dealer but it paints the whole picture and that is being honest.
George, don’t be so quick to judge, you nor I was there so we don’t know the real truth.
July 14th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
Toyota- they are delicious- My sister went into Toyota in Hartford, CT and was given a run around- not happy- they emailed her after she walked out and told her that her credit was not good enough for a car……It is perfect
Hello…American
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:51 am
I was buying an SUV a couple months back, and amongst others, I drove A Saturn VUE and a Toyota Rav4. I Hate Toyotas and always buy american cars, but I figured I’d give Toyota a chance. I regret it. They tried to push me into buying the car I didn’t want, and I argued for an hour, and whenever I proved him wrong he just replied, “Well Toyotas are better” Talk about cocky! Whereas at Saturn, Jeff welcomed me with a smile, and even paid for my coffe from their coffe machine. At Toyota, they pushed me out the door at closing time. At Saturn, Jeff stayed an hour after closing time to convince me why I should buy a Saturn. Nowadays, Toyota and Honda can treat their customers like shit and still sell tons of cars b/c their customers are so closed minded and stubborn. Anyway, the Toyota rode rough and was loud, whereas the Saturn rode great, and has the most comfortable seats i’ve ever felt, and i’ve owned Volvos!(Volvos are known for their amazing seats) And reliability? Not only are Saturns known for being as dependable as the tides, but it’s got a Honda engine that’s built in the USA, so take that Toyota!
August 10th, 2007 at 3:30 am
I sell cars at a dealership in New England. First of all, there is nothing more unpleasant than dealing with a Prius customer. Number one, they want to know about every nook and cranny on the vehicle. I have no problem explaining these features and benefits, but it is hard to motivate myself to perform a great presentation when the customer is nickel and diming me on the price of the car. Why is it that we always have to start the negotiations at the “manufacturers suggested retail price” and work our way down, rather than start above the msrp?
Customers hardly realize the type of irritation accompanied by shear arrogance that sales professionals have to experience on a daily basis. Does anyone like to work for free?
All I have left to say is: Don’t be surprised when the sales guy gives you an attitude when your asking him to put you on 3 or 4 different test drives when you are telling him your not ready to buy. Why somebody would even test drive with no intentions of buying bewilders me and challenges my thought process.
To sum everything up in one sentence: To get the quality of Toyota, you have to pay more.
September 18th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
I recently bought a Scion XB at Toyota Berkeley. My experience with the salespeople was wonderful. Also, the office manager was exceptionally professional and courteous. It sounds like you were frustrated coming in to the dealership. Remember we all make mistakes. I read your story and see no fault on either party. Just a bad day on your part!
September 18th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
Desiree
I wish I could be so understanding, but the facts really speak for themselves: The salesman lied repeatedly and then got caught, so he took the cowardly way out an refused to sell the car.
I can’t see how that is a “bad day on your part”, since my wife was ready to buy the car on the spot. We went to another dealer and had one with a few days, so clearly Berkeley Toyota is to blame.
September 19th, 2007 at 4:26 pm
I recently bought a 07 Camry from Toyota of Berkeley, needed there fiscal address and saw your website on the google page and it caught my eye. I read your story and to my suprise Javier Rios was also my salesmen.
The car I originally wanted was damaged in the back bumper by the transportation truck. Javier was great, he was honest he told me the truth. The choice then became mine I could have the car fixed or I could take a different car in stock. I decided like you I didn’t want a damaged car. I decided to take a silver Camry in stock and not take the black one that was damaged. The choice was mine and the choice was yours. Don’t forget the car that you wanted was there just with damage. Your wife then called back to say she would take any Package 2 Prius in another color? Why would she do this if you guys felt mistreated? Okay they treated me bad so lets go back for more? Dosen’t make sense. I do know that CSI is very important to all Automotive Dealers not just Toyota. Dealers are being more selective if they think they will get bad CSI. I am opposite of you I am referring Toyota Of Berkeley as I dealer that I would buy from again.
September 24th, 2007 at 11:15 pm
“Why is it that we always have to start the negotiations at the “manufacturers suggested retail price” and work our way down, rather than start above the msrp?”
You can start any place you want. In fact, most dealers jack up the MSRP by adding $200 floor mats, $1000 paint protection packages, and overpriced warranties. Oh, and don’t forget the Additional Dealer Markup on those hot cars.
Kind of funny that people don’t complain about stereo salesmen, appliance salesmen or clothing salesmen screwing them. It’s always car salesmen.
Please. You’re breaking my heart.
September 25th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Toyata Marin Sucks Too!! I had a nearly identical situation with Toyota Marin. Over the course of a week, I was lied to several times, given extremely mixed stories, told to buy a more expensive model, etc. They even cashed my check for 13K(!) without ever producing a car!!!! It was ugly. I eventually got my money back and am starting over. I did head up to Novato Toyota last weekend and they were way more on top of things- as well as completely professional (no pressure, no cheesy lies, etc). If I still go with a Prius, I’m going with them.
October 4th, 2007 at 2:03 pm
Jonah, you are whiny bitch. your wife probably had a lot to do with your bitch training. OOOhhh I couldnt get the toyota i wanted… waaahhhhh. Shut up you idiot. you are the reason the rest of the world hates americans. Good for Javier, he just avoided the bad survey you and your cunt wife were gonna send in. I hope you crash your prius in a river with your kids on board… too harsh… ok i just hope you die and your kids grow up in foster care. suck it bitch.
Javier
October 9th, 2007 at 11:50 pm
First of all they didnt lie to you twice. The first car was sold, thats not a lie, they probably have 800-1000 cars in inventory and nobody can keep mental tabs on that kind of inventory. Secondly, you are a typical demanding consumer who is a pain in the ass for dealerships to deal with and you wont let them make any mone. Most car buyers are like that so why do you think salespeople have to be such dicks? So they can sell a car and make theie measly 100 bucks off people like you. You went in there expecting to get the run around and you facilitated it by being a prick. Good job.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:14 pm
I have four friends who were declined the services of eHarmony.com. They’re all sad sacks, and smart, funny, caring, true friends. eHarmony loves its customer satisfaction rating and I can’t help thinking that denying service to the glum is a great way to jigger the odds. Thanks for pointing out the motivation of improving the old customer satisfaction rating. I’ll tell them, they’ll feel better.
That said, Jonah, about a big purchase I can take so much tsuris and and only so much. Berkeley of Toyota’s no different. You don’t like their service, why make them miserable too? They’re not there for your emotional health! Time for Plan B.
December 28th, 2007 at 8:18 pm
Hi loser, is your name Javier Rios?
January 6th, 2008 at 1:29 am
Jonah I totally agree with you, Toyota dealers SUCKS!!!!!!!! I’ve been trying to buy an SUV and getting the run arounds myself and now I plan on dealing with a private party.
January 26th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Hey, thank you just about to call that Toyota of Berkeley dealer..good bye to the dealer then! I won’t go there- so manny cars out in the market – i don’t want to be treated the same way you guys been mistreated. I could be treated worse because of my not so good credit! this country leave on plastic money! thanks for sharing the info.
February 12th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
You get lied to.. and still buy a Toyota. Wow.
Just buy a Chevrolet or Ford, help your country out. Unlike the other heriticks.
March 22nd, 2008 at 10:19 pm
It does not surprise me that this dealership uses these types of tactic, after all it is run by a man (Tim Southwick) who uses Meth and frequents prostitutes.
March 30th, 2008 at 1:16 am
I wonder how pissed Berkely toyota is right now about this post being #2 on Google..
Haha!
I was a car salesman for Toyota of Richardson at one point in my life… and part of our phone script was to get a potential customer in the door no matter what.
Grey Prius Package #5? Ya.. we got that bad boy right here. I’m looking at it. You’ll be hear at 4pm? Great, can’t wait to meet ya.
Hi nice to meet ya. About that Prius… yeeeeah.. we just sold it. But I have this FlexFuel Tahoe that gets pretty good gas mileage. How bout a test drive?
March 31st, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Well… more than a year later we run into a similar bad experience.
We went to Toyota Marin because a friend told us their service was great. BIG MISTAKE! First of all we call in advance to setup an appointment and give them time to have the car ready, it didn’t happen. Also, the sales person was not friendly at all, it was like she was doing us a favor, when in fact is the other way around. Obviously, we didn’t like the experience there and we finally left, but almost one month later we are still receiving calls from that sales person at Toyota Marin (I am pretty sure her name is Anne) insisting in doing business with them, we got a car somewhere else and we have told them this, but it looks like they don’t understand English at Toyota Marin when we asked them to stop calling us. Just don’t go there, avoid the whole nightmare and take your business somewhere else. So great we didn’t end up doing business with Toyota Marin.
April 20th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
BUYERS BEWARE!!!!!! DON’T TRUST TOYOTA OF BERKELEY!!! I purchased a used car from Toyota of Berkeley that they claimed was “certified”. After the purchased I asked them for a copy of the inspection report for my records. They not only wouldn’t give me a copy, they wouldn’t even show it to me. I then took my “certified” car to my local mechanic just to have him give me some reassurance that the car indeed was good. He told me it needed new brakes, the drive belts were cracked, the water pump was leaking, the transmission fluid was black and it looked like it had been in an accident. Now I know why they didn’t want to show me the inspection.
April 21st, 2008 at 7:45 pm
I find this story interesting! I did all my homework on-line like you are supposed to, I found a Highlander at Toyota of Berkeley. The price was pretty good, so I called and spoke with Javier Rios. I satrted by asking if the vehicle in question was still available, and it was. I specifically asked him if the price $21.2K was negotiable, he told me absolutely. When I asked him to tell me what to expect including taxes and all associated charges I was told that he wasn’t allowed to tell me numbers over the phone. I explained that I live about 100 mi from the dealership and would prefer to be given the opportunity to review the information to prevent wasting his time or mine. Javier assured me that they were ready to see the car go and were eager to negotiate. I asked Javier how late he would be in that day and he said 7pm. By the time I got off work I knew that I wouldn’t be able to get there before he left for the day, so we made arrangements to meet Saturday, or possibly as early as Friday. My family went to Toyota of Berkeley on Friday evening and test drove the Highlander, this is when Javier notified me that the price was magically non-negotiable. I asked what changed he said “We were originally selling the vehicle for $24.9K, we just put it on sale this week for $21.2K. When I first talked to you it was my day off and I had no way of knowing about the new sale price.” (Guess he forgot about telling me that he would be there until 7pm) If someone can’t be honest about the price than how am I supposed to trust him to be honest about how mechanically sound the vehicle truly is. Everyone understands the dealership needs to make money, yet they shouldn’t be shady as an ends to that means. If you are offering a fair deal it should stand on it’s own. Allow people to make an informed decision without all the smoke and mirrors.
April 23rd, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Toyota of Lewisville Texas refused to sell us a car after mutilple lies and an agreed to price. We were in the finance area and when believing they would not get a good survey walked out of the room. GM said he would call Monday 4/21 but never did. The way were talked too and bullied by one guy on the trade was amazing. The lack of integrity was overwhelming from top to bottom. The internet salesman made a bad deal for them and then they stuck it to us. Left with my son in tears. After talking with the GM we agreed to not fill out or give excellent on the rating but he refused the deal. With Toyota’s policy of “respect for people” we were blown away about the lack of professionalism and integrity. We ended up buying from Toyota of Plano (Texas) and it was a great experience. Beware of Toyota of Lewisville. They are not people of integrity.
May 25th, 2008 at 10:04 am
After reading the comments posted on this site I will not buy a car from Toyota of Berkeley nor Toyota of Marin. And for the poor pathetic Toyota employees both past and present, sales persons who dare be so critical of consumers as they the consumers spend their money, go to hell. Kevin your an idiot if you believe that the first car was sold. George Steinberg my god what kind of a left leaning pathetic liberal are you. Did you say walk all over george when your mother passed you through her legs. Now lets pay careful attention to the name of the car salesman. Enough said.
June 28th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
If you step outside the situation, I think you would realize that your wife and you had a huge attitude going into the situation. Stop complaining and man up.
August 15th, 2008 at 2:11 am
This is the first website I’ve ever read top to bottom. I loved it. I especially like the part where Javier busted back like Jason Mewes. Then Jesus dropped-by, man, this site’s got it all. Terrific work, everybody!
August 15th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
I bought a Prius in mid September 2006 with a deadline at the end of the month for a tax credit and HOV stickers. I would take any light color package #2. I was told there was a two month wait at minimum. I called every dealer in the SF Bay Area to get on their waiting lists. Then I found out that the only way to be taken seriously was to put down a $500 deposit, so I called them all back. Four required a deposit. I used a credit card so that I would have the force of a bank backing me up if it went bad. One dealer told me the deposit was non-refundable: off my list. Berkeley Toyota asked if I were on any other waiting list and refused to put me on theirs if I were. Thinking it was bad strategy, I passed them by, but they called me three times trying to sell me the same fully loaded black Prius for $15,0000 over the base price.
Concord Toyota (no deposit)called within the week and held the car on my word until I could get there the next morning. They completed the registration promptly and handed me the plates so I could go to the city to apply for the HOV stickers and transponder. They were courteous and honest. The entire transaction took about an hour.
As for Berkeley Toyota, the sales staff was deceptive and annoying. I would call them weasels but that would be a mean thing to say about a useful animal that keeps the rodent population down.
September 6th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
I have heard about stories like yours before, but seriously, that’s why there is more than one store to go to. This is capitalism at work. You try to save your money, they try to get it. It’s not rocket science at all! I think the bullshit should be taken out of the car business and the prices should be fixed at a reasonable rate. There you go. Simple.
October 14th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
First of all, you are a whiny little bitch. Prius drivers are all cocksuckers.
I sell cars, have for 5 years, I’m damn good at it, and my $80,000 income proves it. You live in America, a capitalist nation. A business is allowed to make a profit. Car dealerships included. I don’t know where the idea came up that you as a customer have the god given right to negotiate a car purchase. Do you walk into wal-mart and negotiate your toilet paper in the ckeck out line? Do you negotiate with the gas station attendant about the price of your gas? No. You don’t try, don’t even think about. Because those places don’t negotiate. You would try and look like an asshole. People love to bitch that car dealers are a rip off, but do you ever consider how much your getting “ripped off” everywhere else? When wal-mart has that itch cream that your cunt wife needs marked 75% off, do you ever think that you were getting ripped off that much more buying it at regular price? Every business makes a profit. Get used to it or move to a communist country.
A car salesman is a human too, and deserves the same respect you do. Your position as a customer does not give you the right to treat them like shit, waste their time, and make unreasonable demands. Whiny people like you disgust me and every other car salesman out there.
Grow some balls, learn to treat your salesmen with respect for them and their time, and your next car buying experience won’t be so negative.
Anyone with something to say can reach me at atasteofhypocrasy@gmail.com
December 25th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Interesting Site. My wife and I have been trying to purchase a RAV 4 but cannot find the one we want. We just saw something similar to our needs last night on the Berkeley Toyota lot. I think we’ll pass. I talked to them some time back and got a bad feeling about how I knew more about their vehicles than they did. The salesman I spoke to at that time (don’t remember his name) seemed willing to say anything he thought I wanted to hear.
As for those of you defending the sales men and trashing the customers. Bite Me. It is not OK to lie to people and then expect them to respect you. It is not OK to be rude or disparaging and then expect us to pay you for it.
As to price and getting paid, you dealers all seem to want easy money and to make hundreads of dollars an hour off of we who make tens. One should start at the price the dealer pays the car and negotiate up (Consumer Reports Web Site for pricing and hold backs), not the MSRP and negotiate down. Dealers seem to want a 30-40% mark-up on their product when it should be 3-5%. Hell, Safeway makes 1/2-2%.
Last thought. If they don’t have want, or can’t meet your price, walk away. If you need to buy a car you should not be purchasing new from a dealer, go used from a private party. If you merely want a car then they need to meet your price and desires, not the other way around. You owe the sales man nothing and the dealership less.
January 17th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
I just bought a Prius II here from Bill, and was pretty happy with the whole experience. I liked that Bill didn’t push too hard to sell me on the car. When we sat down to negotiate, his opening price was hundreds under invoice and $1500 below Edmunds “what others are paying” price. I probably got low-balled a few hundred on my trade-in, but walked out well below my goal price. By the way, the Prius is a great car by any standard.
February 1st, 2010 at 4:03 am
A piece of advice for anyone looking for a car. At Toyota of Berkeley, I was shown a clean carfax for a vehicle I was interested in purchasing. I thought the price was about an outstanding deal, but had a nagging feeling. I went home and purchased a personnel membership from CARFAX and found the exact vehicle which the dealership had assured me came with a clean title had indeed been in an accident of over $5,000.00 in damage. Glad I double checked and followed my gut instinct.
February 3rd, 2010 at 9:15 pm
I was told Toyota is in the process of recalling some vehicles with braking problems . My uncle drives a Toyota, should the car be used before being replaced?
February 3rd, 2010 at 9:22 pm
Wow, that is beyond shady and well past criminal. You should have called the policy, the district attorney and maybe the local TV stations.
August 11th, 2010 at 10:36 am
I have had the same problem at a Toyota dealership in South San Francisco. Same problem at a Mazda dealership though. It’s not just Toyota. I think the internet has just changed a lot about the knowledge of customers, and many customers come “ready to buy”. ie we know what we want, and we know the price we are willing to pay. I think the dealership has got to respect that and deal with these types of customers differently.
September 3rd, 2010 at 7:43 am
I agree with James, all in all, threads like these are highly entertaining. I especially like the abusive posts – highly effective for convincing people to ignore your opinion!
I’ve found in my dealings with car dealers it’s best to to assume they’ll lie because that’s part of the game. in fact, most people will lie to strangers – lawyers, doctors, politicians, web loggers…
I try to go in well informed and keep everything matter of fact. When they start playing games I just tell them I need to deal straight or go elsewhere, and I do go elsewhere. I don’t go in thinking I just have to have that car in that color right now today.
My summary advice: Stay cool. Don’t allow yourself to be abused. Leave if you think that’s happening. Be polite and non-adversarial with salesmen. Remind them of what their bottom line and yours is and don’t negotiate. And in the end, don’t worry about spending $200 more on a $20,000 car. The angst is not worth it.