Comments for Online Marketing ROI http://www.measurement.com/Online_Marketing Measuring PPC and SEO Return On Investment Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:22:53 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 Comment on Berkeley Toyota Caught Lying – Refuses To Sell Couple A Car by Jonahstein http://www.measurement.com/Online_Marketing/berkeley-toyota-sucks/comment-page-1#comment-1506 Jonahstein Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:22:53 +0000 http://measurement.com/Online_Marketing/?p=10#comment-1506 Wow, that is beyond shady and well past criminal. You should have called the policy, the district attorney and maybe the local TV stations. Wow, that is beyond shady and well past criminal. You should have called the policy, the district attorney and maybe the local TV stations.

]]> Comment on Berkeley Toyota Caught Lying – Refuses To Sell Couple A Car by Hakon http://www.measurement.com/Online_Marketing/berkeley-toyota-sucks/comment-page-1#comment-1505 Hakon Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:15:32 +0000 http://measurement.com/Online_Marketing/?p=10#comment-1505 I was told Toyota is in the process of recalling some vehicles with braking problems . My uncle drives a Toyota, should the car be used before being replaced? I was told Toyota is in the process of recalling some vehicles with braking problems . My uncle drives a Toyota, should the car be used before being replaced?

]]> Comment on Berkeley Toyota Caught Lying – Refuses To Sell Couple A Car by Get your own CARFAX http://www.measurement.com/Online_Marketing/berkeley-toyota-sucks/comment-page-1#comment-1504 Get your own CARFAX Mon, 01 Feb 2010 11:03:33 +0000 http://measurement.com/Online_Marketing/?p=10#comment-1504 A piece of advice for anyone looking for a car. At Toyota of Berkeley, I was shown a clean carfax for a vehicle I was interested in purchasing. I thought the price was about an outstanding deal, but had a nagging feeling. I went home and purchased a personnel membership from CARFAX and found the exact vehicle which the dealership had assured me came with a clean title had indeed been in an accident of over $5,000.00 in damage. Glad I double checked and followed my gut instinct. A piece of advice for anyone looking for a car. At Toyota of Berkeley, I was shown a clean carfax for a vehicle I was interested in purchasing. I thought the price was about an outstanding deal, but had a nagging feeling. I went home and purchased a personnel membership from CARFAX and found the exact vehicle which the dealership had assured me came with a clean title had indeed been in an accident of over $5,000.00 in damage. Glad I double checked and followed my gut instinct.

]]> Comment on Berkeley Toyota Caught Lying – Refuses To Sell Couple A Car by No problems here... http://www.measurement.com/Online_Marketing/berkeley-toyota-sucks/comment-page-1#comment-1503 No problems here... Mon, 18 Jan 2010 05:10:46 +0000 http://measurement.com/Online_Marketing/?p=10#comment-1503 I just bought a Prius II here from Bill, and was pretty happy with the whole experience. I liked that Bill didn't push too hard to sell me on the car. When we sat down to negotiate, his opening price was hundreds under invoice and $1500 below Edmunds "what others are paying" price. I probably got low-balled a few hundred on my trade-in, but walked out well below my goal price. By the way, the Prius is a great car by any standard. I just bought a Prius II here from Bill, and was pretty happy with the whole experience. I liked that Bill didn’t push too hard to sell me on the car. When we sat down to negotiate, his opening price was hundreds under invoice and $1500 below Edmunds “what others are paying” price. I probably got low-balled a few hundred on my trade-in, but walked out well below my goal price. By the way, the Prius is a great car by any standard.

]]> Comment on Berkeley Toyota Caught Lying – Refuses To Sell Couple A Car by Saturnine http://www.measurement.com/Online_Marketing/berkeley-toyota-sucks/comment-page-1#comment-1495 Saturnine Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:49:35 +0000 http://measurement.com/Online_Marketing/?p=10#comment-1495 Interesting Site. My wife and I have been trying to purchase a RAV 4 but cannot find the one we want. We just saw something similar to our needs last night on the Berkeley Toyota lot. I think we'll pass. I talked to them some time back and got a bad feeling about how I knew more about their vehicles than they did. The salesman I spoke to at that time (don't remember his name) seemed willing to say anything he thought I wanted to hear. As for those of you defending the sales men and trashing the customers. Bite Me. It is not OK to lie to people and then expect them to respect you. It is not OK to be rude or disparaging and then expect us to pay you for it. As to price and getting paid, you dealers all seem to want easy money and to make hundreads of dollars an hour off of we who make tens. One should start at the price the dealer pays the car and negotiate up (Consumer Reports Web Site for pricing and hold backs), not the MSRP and negotiate down. Dealers seem to want a 30-40% mark-up on their product when it should be 3-5%. Hell, Safeway makes 1/2-2%. Last thought. If they don't have want, or can't meet your price, walk away. If you need to buy a car you should not be purchasing new from a dealer, go used from a private party. If you merely want a car then they need to meet your price and desires, not the other way around. You owe the sales man nothing and the dealership less. Interesting Site. My wife and I have been trying to purchase a RAV 4 but cannot find the one we want. We just saw something similar to our needs last night on the Berkeley Toyota lot. I think we’ll pass. I talked to them some time back and got a bad feeling about how I knew more about their vehicles than they did. The salesman I spoke to at that time (don’t remember his name) seemed willing to say anything he thought I wanted to hear.

As for those of you defending the sales men and trashing the customers. Bite Me. It is not OK to lie to people and then expect them to respect you. It is not OK to be rude or disparaging and then expect us to pay you for it.

As to price and getting paid, you dealers all seem to want easy money and to make hundreads of dollars an hour off of we who make tens. One should start at the price the dealer pays the car and negotiate up (Consumer Reports Web Site for pricing and hold backs), not the MSRP and negotiate down. Dealers seem to want a 30-40% mark-up on their product when it should be 3-5%. Hell, Safeway makes 1/2-2%.

Last thought. If they don’t have want, or can’t meet your price, walk away. If you need to buy a car you should not be purchasing new from a dealer, go used from a private party. If you merely want a car then they need to meet your price and desires, not the other way around. You owe the sales man nothing and the dealership less.

]]> Comment on Berkeley Toyota Caught Lying – Refuses To Sell Couple A Car by brian http://www.measurement.com/Online_Marketing/berkeley-toyota-sucks/comment-page-1#comment-1481 brian Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:18:59 +0000 http://measurement.com/Online_Marketing/?p=10#comment-1481 First of all, you are a whiny little bitch. Prius drivers are all cocksuckers. I sell cars, have for 5 years, I'm damn good at it, and my $80,000 income proves it. You live in America, a capitalist nation. A business is allowed to make a profit. Car dealerships included. I don't know where the idea came up that you as a customer have the god given right to negotiate a car purchase. Do you walk into wal-mart and negotiate your toilet paper in the ckeck out line? Do you negotiate with the gas station attendant about the price of your gas? No. You don't try, don't even think about. Because those places don't negotiate. You would try and look like an asshole. People love to bitch that car dealers are a rip off, but do you ever consider how much your getting "ripped off" everywhere else? When wal-mart has that itch cream that your cunt wife needs marked 75% off, do you ever think that you were getting ripped off that much more buying it at regular price? Every business makes a profit. Get used to it or move to a communist country. A car salesman is a human too, and deserves the same respect you do. Your position as a customer does not give you the right to treat them like shit, waste their time, and make unreasonable demands. Whiny people like you disgust me and every other car salesman out there. Grow some balls, learn to treat your salesmen with respect for them and their time, and your next car buying experience won't be so negative. Anyone with something to say can reach me at atasteofhypocrasy@gmail.com First of all, you are a whiny little bitch. Prius drivers are all cocksuckers.
I sell cars, have for 5 years, I’m damn good at it, and my $80,000 income proves it. You live in America, a capitalist nation. A business is allowed to make a profit. Car dealerships included. I don’t know where the idea came up that you as a customer have the god given right to negotiate a car purchase. Do you walk into wal-mart and negotiate your toilet paper in the ckeck out line? Do you negotiate with the gas station attendant about the price of your gas? No. You don’t try, don’t even think about. Because those places don’t negotiate. You would try and look like an asshole. People love to bitch that car dealers are a rip off, but do you ever consider how much your getting “ripped off” everywhere else? When wal-mart has that itch cream that your cunt wife needs marked 75% off, do you ever think that you were getting ripped off that much more buying it at regular price? Every business makes a profit. Get used to it or move to a communist country.
A car salesman is a human too, and deserves the same respect you do. Your position as a customer does not give you the right to treat them like shit, waste their time, and make unreasonable demands. Whiny people like you disgust me and every other car salesman out there.
Grow some balls, learn to treat your salesmen with respect for them and their time, and your next car buying experience won’t be so negative.
Anyone with something to say can reach me at atasteofhypocrasy@gmail.com

]]> Comment on Berkeley Toyota Caught Lying – Refuses To Sell Couple A Car by Ronny Neigs http://www.measurement.com/Online_Marketing/berkeley-toyota-sucks/comment-page-1#comment-631 Ronny Neigs Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:01:22 +0000 http://measurement.com/Online_Marketing/?p=10#comment-631 I have heard about stories like yours before, but seriously, that's why there is more than one store to go to. This is capitalism at work. You try to save your money, they try to get it. It's not rocket science at all! I think the bullshit should be taken out of the car business and the prices should be fixed at a reasonable rate. There you go. Simple. I have heard about stories like yours before, but seriously, that’s why there is more than one store to go to. This is capitalism at work. You try to save your money, they try to get it. It’s not rocket science at all! I think the bullshit should be taken out of the car business and the prices should be fixed at a reasonable rate. There you go. Simple.

]]> Comment on Berkeley Toyota Caught Lying – Refuses To Sell Couple A Car by Lubov Mazur http://www.measurement.com/Online_Marketing/berkeley-toyota-sucks/comment-page-1#comment-193 Lubov Mazur Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:49:03 +0000 http://measurement.com/Online_Marketing/?p=10#comment-193 I bought a Prius in mid September 2006 with a deadline at the end of the month for a tax credit and HOV stickers. I would take any light color package #2. I was told there was a two month wait at minimum. I called every dealer in the SF Bay Area to get on their waiting lists. Then I found out that the only way to be taken seriously was to put down a $500 deposit, so I called them all back. Four required a deposit. I used a credit card so that I would have the force of a bank backing me up if it went bad. One dealer told me the deposit was non-refundable: off my list. Berkeley Toyota asked if I were on any other waiting list and refused to put me on theirs if I were. Thinking it was bad strategy, I passed them by, but they called me three times trying to sell me the same fully loaded black Prius for $15,0000 over the base price. Concord Toyota (no deposit)called within the week and held the car on my word until I could get there the next morning. They completed the registration promptly and handed me the plates so I could go to the city to apply for the HOV stickers and transponder. They were courteous and honest. The entire transaction took about an hour. As for Berkeley Toyota, the sales staff was deceptive and annoying. I would call them weasels but that would be a mean thing to say about a useful animal that keeps the rodent population down. I bought a Prius in mid September 2006 with a deadline at the end of the month for a tax credit and HOV stickers. I would take any light color package #2. I was told there was a two month wait at minimum. I called every dealer in the SF Bay Area to get on their waiting lists. Then I found out that the only way to be taken seriously was to put down a $500 deposit, so I called them all back. Four required a deposit. I used a credit card so that I would have the force of a bank backing me up if it went bad. One dealer told me the deposit was non-refundable: off my list. Berkeley Toyota asked if I were on any other waiting list and refused to put me on theirs if I were. Thinking it was bad strategy, I passed them by, but they called me three times trying to sell me the same fully loaded black Prius for $15,0000 over the base price.
Concord Toyota (no deposit)called within the week and held the car on my word until I could get there the next morning. They completed the registration promptly and handed me the plates so I could go to the city to apply for the HOV stickers and transponder. They were courteous and honest. The entire transaction took about an hour.
As for Berkeley Toyota, the sales staff was deceptive and annoying. I would call them weasels but that would be a mean thing to say about a useful animal that keeps the rodent population down.

]]> Comment on Berkeley Toyota Caught Lying – Refuses To Sell Couple A Car by james http://www.measurement.com/Online_Marketing/berkeley-toyota-sucks/comment-page-1#comment-195 james Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:11:25 +0000 http://measurement.com/Online_Marketing/?p=10#comment-195 This is the first website I've ever read top to bottom. I loved it. I especially like the part where Javier busted back like Jason Mewes. Then Jesus dropped-by, man, this site's got it all. Terrific work, everybody! This is the first website I’ve ever read top to bottom. I loved it. I especially like the part where Javier busted back like Jason Mewes. Then Jesus dropped-by, man, this site’s got it all. Terrific work, everybody!

]]> Comment on Berkeley Toyota Caught Lying – Refuses To Sell Couple A Car by Jesus http://www.measurement.com/Online_Marketing/berkeley-toyota-sucks/comment-page-1#comment-44 Jesus Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:47:50 +0000 http://measurement.com/Online_Marketing/?p=10#comment-44 If you step outside the situation, I think you would realize that your wife and you had a huge attitude going into the situation. Stop complaining and man up. If you step outside the situation, I think you would realize that your wife and you had a huge attitude going into the situation. Stop complaining and man up.

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